Definitely requires verifiable proof before any of us can repeat such atrocities to our still-in family etc.
Otherwise, it will only serve to reinforce their opinions of "apostates on the web."
johnny the bethelite on this program talks about the older bethelites being targeted by watchtower.they are getting rid of those at bethel who are 65-87 years old, some being anointed even the widows of former governing body members who gave decades of loyal service time to the watchtower organization.. the reasons the very elderly are being expelled are money in that for their age range they cost so much to cloth, fed, and medicate, having problems from high blood pressure to dementia.
they include persons such as sister henschel whose husband had been a watchtower president and marian sydlik whose parents are long dead.. https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/jan-16-2016-johnny-the-bethelite-watchtower-insider-host-his-radio-program-from-brooklyn-ny .
Definitely requires verifiable proof before any of us can repeat such atrocities to our still-in family etc.
Otherwise, it will only serve to reinforce their opinions of "apostates on the web."
.. source: http://eagles.com/news/266763.
it is with the heaviest of hearts that we [the eagles]...the passing of our comrade, eagles founder, glenn frey, in new york city on monday, january 18th, 2016.glenn fought a courageous battle for the past several weeks but, sadly, succumbed to complications from rheumatoid arthritis, acute ulcerative colitis and pneumonia.the frey family would like to thank everyone who joined glenn to fight this fight and hoped and prayed for his recovery.words can neither describe our sorrow, nor our love and respect for all that he has given to us, his family, the music community & millions of fans worldwide.cindy frey | taylor frey | deacon frey | otis frey|don henley | joe walsh | timothy b. schmit | bernie leadon | irving azoff“it's your world now”written by glenn frey and jack tempchinfrom the eagles’ long road out of eden albuma perfect day, the sun is sinkin' lowas evening falls, the gentle breezes blowthe time we shared went by so fastjust like a dream, we knew it couldn't lastbut i'd do it all againif i could, somehowbut i must be leavin' soonit's your world nowit's your world nowmy race is runi'm moving onlike the setting sunno sad goodbyesno tears allowedyou'll be alrightit's your world noweven when we are apartyou'll always be in my heartwhen dark clouds appear in the skyremember true love never diesbut first a kiss, one glass of winejust one more dance while there's still timemy one last wish: someday, you'll seehow hard i tried and how much you meant to meit's your world nowuse well your timebe part of something goodleave something good behindthe curtain fallsi take my bowthat's how it's meant to beit's your world nowit's your world nowit's your world now.
..... source: http://eagles.com/news/266763.
A tragic loss for all who loved Eagles songs, but a terrible shock and heartbreak for his family and close friends.
I feel for them.
boe 2016-01-15 re: new feature on jw.org for processing recommendations of elders and ministerial servants.
pdf.
thanks ich3b!.
Thanks WiFi.
Electronically "appointed men" - selected by the "spirit of the web."
Fast-tracking of Glorious Ones - to replace the increasing numbers of disillusioned elders who are jumping ship?
a. in 2026 in what state do you think the organization will be?.
) 9million + members.
) roughly the same amount of members as today (7-9 million)..
A 2
B 3
C 3
D 3
The "refining work" and the "best use of resources" will continue to rapidly slow down the production of printed literature and focus on the cost-saving electronic "witnessing" propaganda. The numbers joining, coupled with the number of J.W.'s infants being baptized, will be greatly outweighed by the numbers of those who are fading/leaving/disfellowshipped.
so, i know there are some from my congregation or from bethel who monitor my posts..... maybe you're looking for something to catch me out?.
just a question: rather than trying to find fault with me, have you stopped and looked into the issues or facts about the organisation that caused me to come to a place like this forum??.
facts are there for anyone to find nowadays....one just has to be willing to pull their head out of the sand.....
The perverse and evil thinking which J.W's in general - but elders in particular - display, never ceases to disgust me, because they attempt to justify such anti-Christian behaviour as "theocratic warfare."
It's OK for them to frequent apostate web sites - but not you!
It's OK for elders to speak with disfellowshipped ones - but you will be severely punished for doing so!
It's OK for elders to look at & discuss your monthly report - but try and ask to see their reports!!!!
It's OK for "imperfect elders" to make mistakes, but "imperfect publishers" mistakes will be punished by them!
Glorious ones? In their dreams!
i really want to let go of the exjw obsession.
but i can't.
i keep coming here and other sites several times a day.i want to shout from the rooftops to my family and friends and say, "it's all a lie!
Juan - you're not alone! There's a great crowd of us folks - both in and out - who feel like screaming at our loved ones "why won't you just look at the evidence."
Just hang in there and be gentle with your family. The carrot is more successful than the stick. Try to ask them thought-stirring questions, rather than telling them things - things which they really don't want to hear or discuss!
I'll bet the Corporation's propaganda is already making them privately concerned!
Barely There - It's normal to feel so many different emotions when confronted with TTATT, but look at it as a new start, a new way of life. Then start to walk slowly along your new road. It really does get better as you go on.
... in case the u.k. charities commission summons them - like the australian royal commission snared mr. jackson?
why else would they be sending two of their personal boot-lickers?.
credit to wifibandit for this post.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5658621048258560/boe-2016-01-13-britain-branch-visit-2016-01-18-correct-use-jw-org-inboxes.
sorry but i really feel like i need to rant right now.
recently my dad was made an elder so my family has been doing a lot more "theocratic" activities lately.
every morning i wake up and put on my itchy dress and stupid makeup and heels and then pretend that i love what i'm doing and that everybody is my friend when in reality i feel horrible and all the other teenage girls at my hall hate me for some reason.
Finkelstein's words are spot on, I think - "play along until you can move out on your own when you can. Pretentious as it may be, its really your only choice for now ."
You can prepare to walk through a minefield by learning how others have managed to survive their experience.
Don't tell anyone your specific concerns about the Corporation - especially your parents! Simply tell them that you have personal issues which you are dealing with in prayer, and that you are grateful for their concern.
Rinse & repeat. Stick with this "firewall" and you will give no one anything to pin on you. Give them any "excuses", and the wolves will smell blood - yours!
Never forget - no one can force you to tell them your private & personal thoughts.
If anyone pushes you, (especially the elders) ask them if they'd tell you their deepest & most private thoughts!
I wish you peace and success.
i decided to put an end to my affiliation with the jws for good.
this decision is not the result of an irrational impulse.
it is quite the contrary.
Full of admiration for you. Leaving the "Hotel California" isn't so easy for many of us.
I truly wish you a life of peace and happiness!
hello and thanks to everyone for participating on this forum it has really been of much value, for those of you that post here know that your words are not lost you never know who is reading your expressions, lives are being changed and nonsense challenged.
i’m not much of a writer so excuse my untrained writing style and grammar but i want to share my story to help anyone who is visiting here to see that we are real people, fathers, mothers, sons and daughters who have come here for answers, there is no agenda, just searching for truth.
i hope my story will help others as so many here have helped me..